New Glasgow
While googling for the physical address of nearby retail store, I notice a name on Google’s map that captured my attention : New Glasgow.
Could it be that a Canadian-Scottish link is near where I live? (I’m based in St-Jérôme, near Ste-Sophie, approximately 50 km north of Montreal, in the beautiful province of Québec, Canada. )
Well googly google , the answer is … yes!
It started in 1675
A landed estate, Terrebonne, commonly called a ‘seigneury’, was founded.
Fast forward to -> 1744
Captain of the Chapt Lacorne purchased the seigneury of Terrebonne (…) Moreover, in 1753, he is granted a new territory, north of Terrebonne, to exploit wooden land.
Moving on to -> 1814
Roderick McKenzie, becomes the new owner of the seigneury. Born in Scotland, he arrived in the province of Quebec in 1784, presumably because of his ties with his cousin Alexander, since by 1785 he was employed as a clerk and Alexander’s assistant in Gregory, MacLeod and Company. Source
He was in turn granted additional land and open same to colonisation in 1821.
He never became a seigneur, and had to leave the property in 1824 after a court action, initiated by pre-owner’s widow, cancelling his purchase because the executors had exceeded their authority in making the sale. He nevertheless continued to live in Terrebonne.
The majority of the immigrants originating from Scotland, felt the satisfaction of having the name of their native country identify their new dwellings.
1863
A small part of the territory, 3,3 square km is excluded from the seigneury to form the village of New Glasgow .
The smallest village of Canada!
STROLLING DOWN MEMORY LANE…
Hotel in New Glasgow Quebec 1914
Segal Store New Glasgow Quebec
I’m so enthusiastic to research more on how it all came about.
Rest assured, will share more in a near future.
A suivre!
Janice
Scotiana’s team member
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UPDATE: Fascinating insights shared by Scotiana’s reader, George A. Neville, historian and genealogist whose recent work sheds light on a nearly forgotten chapter of the province of Quebec railway history that took place in New Glasgow -> https://www.scotiana.com/forgotten-railway-in-new-glasgow-qc/
Hi Janice, I lived in New Glasgow between 1980 and 1990. Not exactly in the center but at the Domaine Racine which backs with the golf club. What else de you know about New Glasgow?
Thanks Diane for sharing about living in New Glasgow Quebec! Don’t know much more but will undoubtly discover more info as I go back visit the once smallest village in Canada! Until next, take care and all the very best! Janice
A great-great grandfather of mine is John Murray.this is maternal.
Thanks for sharing William! We greatly appreciate. About the Murray name study, here is a good study article you might know about, but just in case here goes:
https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1177040/are-you-a-murray-or-a-member-of-an-allied-family
Take care and all the very best.
Janice
Scotiana
I know Diane ;we went to the same schools and later even live togheter in Vancouver. I live at the opposite side , L’Achican Sud about 2 miles from her .This town has a water fall that you can hear a mile away in spring . It’s a beautiful micro community of 150 in the 1970’s and now around 135.
Merci Sylvain pour votre témoignage. It’s a small world! Take care. All the best. Janice
Scotiana
So fun to find info on the place I grew up. My family from Scotland, Ireland and Hungary settled here early 1800s (Dey/Day, Fraser, Pal, etc) Fond memories.
Thank you Wendy for sharing! Happy to know you enjoyed the read 🙂 All the best, Janice
Bonjour,
J’ai vécu mes étés d’adolescence au Domaine Racine en 1963.
C’était très bien à l’époque!
Le village était actif:magasin général,le club,le garage Den ,Villeneuve et
le kiosque a patates frites!
De beaux souvenirs!
Serge
Merci de votre commentaire Serge. Ah oui, les kiosques a patate frites.. on les oublie pas!
My Grandmother was Clara Goodman, her father was Patrick Benjamin Goodman, his was Bernard Bryan Goodman, and his father Owen Goodman settled in New Glasgow in 1825. Clara came to Alberta with her father, Patrick, in 1906.
Thank you for sharing such great information with our community of readers. It is greatly appreciated! Any relationship with the Goodman Department Store? Stay safe and strong. All the best, Janice
My parents bought a summer cottage in New Glasgow Quebec. It was a couple of miles after the village.There use to be a French fry truck before the village across from the gas station it was called Dent’s garage same owners of the fry truck. It was in the mid 60’s.
Thank you Brian for sharing such fond memories! It is greatly appreciated.
Such a small town but with so many amenities in the 60’s & 70’s such as ; a bakery on the outskirt of town , a milkman who delivered door to door, 3 grocery stores , a post office , a hardware store , a garage with a gaz station,a butcher shop, a hair salon, a hotel with a tavern, an ice cream shop, a patate frite- hamburger store, a blacksmith, a shoe store , a community- church building, a ice ring , a presbytarian church with a cemetery ( an orthodox cemetery 2 miles away), a taxi service, a flourmill back a century ago beside the beautiful water fall, a saw mill operated by water, a golf course a mile away ,and much more.
Thank you Sylvain for this great and informative descriptive of all the availabilities in New Glasgow even though it was a small village. We appreciate your collaboration!
There is one school. I went to that school around 1946. I believe that is the one our prime minister Laurier went to. Oscar Schneider.
Please accept our apologies for the delay in replying to your comment; For an unforeseen reason it got overlooked. Thank you for sharing your interesting connection with Sir Wilfrid Laurier by attending the same school! It’s always fascinating to learn about personal links to historical figures. Your input adds a valuable personal touch to our exploration of New Glasgow and its notable connections. Janice (Scotiana Team)
My husband’s great grandmother was born here in 1835. I believe her father, Richard Guinn, was the minister in New Glasgow Quebec at the time.
My fathers family had their farm halfway between St Lin and New Glasgow.
The family had been farming there going back to the early 1800’s ( 3 generations)
My father also attended the same one room school as Sir Wilfred Laurier (decades apart)!
My grandparents were Norman & Emma Lloyd, adjoining their farm was my grandfathers brother Herbert & his wife Muriel!
My father Lewis Lloyd had to board in Lachute to attend high school but eventually became Vice Principal at McGill!
It’s great to see such a meaningful connection to New Glasgow and its history. Your family’s generational ties to the area and the interesting fact about your father attending the same one room school as Sir Wilfred Laurier are fascinating pieces of history. It’s clear that your family has a deep-rooted history in the region, and their accomplishments are impressive, from farming for generations to your father becoming Vice Principal at McGill.
Thank you for sharing this personal and historical account with us. It adds a unique and valuable perspective to the discussion about New Glasgow’s past. If you have any more stories or anecdotes to share, I’m sure others, including myself, would love to hear them. Stories like these help us appreciate the rich history and heritage that communities like New Glasgow hold.
I am a descendant of Hoyes Lloyd who was one of the original families who established New Glasgow. His original home has been preserved I believe. Is there any information about who arranged the first ngroup of settlers from Glasgow to settle there?
I am new to this post. My great-great-great grandfather was George Tait (1798-1883). He and and his wife Isabella were members of the New Glasgow Presbyterian Church (no longer there), but are buried in the cemetery. My daughter actually visited there and took photos of their headstones. I am planning on going to visit the cemetery this fall, but I wonder if anybody has any information on where their farm might have been? On the 1851 Agricultural Census it states the their farm was in the parish of Labourne, Terrebonne County and roads near New Glasgow and Cole Henry. One sheet of the census is marked “contains the western part of the parish named Cote John.” Also on note on the census it reads that the “western part of the parish is very stoney and but a small l part of it capable of cultivation, the settlers be taking themselves to making charcoal ashes for . . . their support.” Does this make any sense to anybody? If it does, please let me know as I would love to be able to see the area where they had their farm.
On 14 August 1975, I recorded memorials from St. John’s Anglican Cemetery, New Glasgow, Terrebonne Co., Que. including those of my gtgdfather George Neville and his wife, Margaret Livingston, children etc., and of his brother Robert Neville, his wife, Nancy Livingston & children. The details of these and others buried there were published in the The Ottawa Geanalogist, Vol. 54, No. 3, Sept.-Dec. 2022. This cemetery is located south of the former village of New Glasgow off the secondary road paralleling the small L’Achigan Rivière but on the north side of Ch. de l’Achigan S. The article also details Wilfrid Laurier’s early years at St-Lin and boarding for 2 years with the Kirks, an Irish Catholic family in New Glasgow to learn English and absorb Presbyterian culture of the village.Commentary also on New Paisley SW of NG.
Thank you so much for sharing this fascinating piece of history with us! It’s wonderful to hear about your personal connection to New Glasgow and the detailed work you’ve done in recording the memorials from St. John’s Anglican Cemetery. Your contribution to genealogical records, especially through your publication in The Ottawa Genealogist, adds valuable context to the story of New Glasgow.
The connection to Sir Wilfrid Laurier’s time in New Glasgow is particularly intriguing, especially considering how his experience there influenced his linguistic and cultural development. The mention of New Paisley also piques my interest—I’ll certainly look into that further.
If you have any additional insights or stories related to New Glasgow or the surrounding areas, I would love to hear them. Thank you again for contributing to the preservation of our shared heritage! Janice D. – Scotiana Team
Thanks for updating us of the articles in the upcoming issue of FAMILIES. The history of the RR station at New Glasgow and the early development of the railroad in the area is incredibly intriguing, especially with the details about the property owners involved. It is greatly greatly appreciated! Until next, all the very best. Janice – Scotiana Team
Good day George,
we are happy to share that we have published an article based on the information you have so kindly contributed in reference with the early development of the railroad in New Glasow, QC.
Here’s the link: https://www.scotiana.com/forgotten-railway-in-new-glasgow-qc/
Thank you again!
Janice – Scotiana.com Team Member.
Hi George
My name is Mark Neville. I live in Ottawa. I just noticed your post saying your great grandfather is George Neville. He is my great great grandfather. As you said George Neville and Margaret Livingston married. They had a child named Robert Neville born in 1861. Robert married Mary Ann Rourke born 1861 in England Robert and Mary Ann had a child named George Robert Neville in 1897. He was my grandfather. George Robert Neville married Violet Higgins born 1904 in Newfoundland. George Robert and Violet had a child named Norman Robert Neville born 1929 Montreal. Norman Robert married Florence Lemieux born 1934 Montreal, they had 4 children , Paul Robert, Mark (myself) Peter and Luke. in 1981 our family moved to Ottawa.
Where do you fit in on that tree. Do you still live in the Montreal area? I have also done quite a bit of research on Ancestry.com You can look up my tree and you will see the George Neville line.
Mark Neville mneville36@gmail.com
My ancestors also lived in New Glasgow, Quebec. I have been trying to locate where their farm was. George and Isabella Tait bought the property in Cote Irlandaise, and their three daughters stayed until Margaret Tait died in 1918. They are buried at the New-Glasgow Community Cemetery. Does anyone know anymore? Their eldest son, Gilbert had a daughter named Catherine (Kitty) who married the mayor of Sainte Sophie named Thomas Scott Poole. If anyone has any additional info, let me know. Thank you.
Good morning,
My name is Jack Haines and I’m new to this site.
My great-grandparents are William Robert Haines and Janet Doull “Jessie” McKenzie.
They are buried in the churchyard of St. John in the Wilderness Anglican Church. There might not be a monument for their final resting place. My elderly cousin, Janet Cole, and my wife and I visited the church in 2003. Janet told us that there was an iron picket fence around their gravesite for a monument. We were unable to enter the churchyard. But from the outside, we didn’t see any picket fence, so we don’t know if a flat stone or monument was ever placed there.
The Haineses had a small farm in Kilkenny.
The children of William Robert and Janet “Jessie” are William McKenzie (married Miriam Mayers), Isabella Annie (married George Cook), and Maria Mansfield (married Richard W. Cole).
Their children (Haines) are Robert, Richard, Jessie, Florence, and Gwenneth. The Cole child is Janet. The Cook family were childless.
I have a photo of the school where all the children attended.
Have a good weekend, dear people,
Jack Stirling Haines